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              BEFORE THE MISSOURI GAMING COMMISSION

          5   STATE OF MISSOURI

 

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          9         Meeting

                July 25, 2007

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                Central Office

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              Jefferson City, Missouri

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          1                             AGENDA

 

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          3   I.    Call to Order                              4:2

 

          4   II.   Minutes

                    A. June 27, 2007                           4:19

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              III.  Consideration of Hearing Officer

          6         Recommendations

                    B.  Melody Kirsch

          7             1.  Resolution No. 07-051             6:3

                    C.  Carnell S. Stevenson, Jr.

          8             1.  Resolution No. 07-052             11:23

                    D.  Billy Hicks

          9             1.  Resolution No. 07-053             15:3

                    E.  Ollina Boaz

         10             1.  Resolution No. 07-054             26:2

 

         11   IV.  Consideration of Relicensure of

                   Certain Suppliers

         12         F.  Midwest Game Supply Company

                        1.  Resolution No. 07-055             32:12

         13         G.  Shuffle Master, Inc.

                        1.  Resolution No. 07-056             32:12

         14         H.  WMS Gaming, Inc.

                        1.  Resolution No. 07-057             32:12

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              V.  Consideration of Licensure of Level I/

         16        Key Applicants

                    I.  Resolution No. 07-058                  33:24

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              VI.   Consideration of Extension of

         18         Liquor License

                    J.  Harrah's North Kansas City, LLC

         19             1.  Resolution No. 07-059             35:18

 

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                         BEFORE THE MISSOURI GAMING COMMISSION

          2                        STATE OF MISSOURI

 

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          6                              Meeting

                                     July 25, 2007

          7                           10:00 a.m.

                                     Central Office

          8                         3417 Knipp Drive

                               Jefferson City, Missouri

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              COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT:

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                         Noel J. Shull, Chairman

         15              Darryl T. Jones

                         Samuel J. Hais

         16              Larry W. Plunkett, Sr.

                         Suzanne Bradley (Via Telephonically)

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              Reported by:

         20   Patricia A. Stewart, RMR, RPR, CCR 401

              Midwest Litigation Services

         21   3432 West Truman Boulevard, Suite 207

              Jefferson City, Missouri  65109

         22   (573) 636-7551

 

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          1                      P R O C E E D I N G S

 

          2                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Today Mrs. Bradley is going

 

          3   to be with us by teleconferencing.

 

          4                 So if you'll call the roll, please.

 

          5                 MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Shull.

 

          6                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Present.

 

          7                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Jones.

 

          8                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Present.

 

          9                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hais.

 

         10                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Present.

 

         11                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Plunkett.

 

         12                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  Present.

 

         13                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bradley.

 

         14                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Present.

 

         15                 Can you hear me?

 

         16                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  We can.  Thank you,

 

         17   Suzanne.

 

         18                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Thank you.

 

         19                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  The first item will be

 

         20   consideration of last month's minutes.

 

         21                 Are there any changes, additions or

 

         22   deletions?

 

         23                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  I'd like to make a

 

         24   motion to approve the minutes of the June 27th, 2007

 

         25   meeting.

 

 

 


 

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          1                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  I'll second that.

 

          2                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is there any further

 

          3   discussion?

 

          4                 Call the roll, please.

 

          5                 MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Shull.

 

          6                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Approved.

 

          7                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Jones.

 

          8                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Approved.

 

          9                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hais.

 

         10                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Approved.

 

         11                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Plunkett.

 

         12                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  Approved.

 

         13                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bradley.

 

         14                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Approved.

 

         15                 MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted the

 

         16   minutes of the June 27th, 2007 meeting.

 

         17                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  The next item is

 

         18   Consideration of Hearing Officer Recommendations.  I'm

 

         19   going to turn it over to Mr. Hinckley.

 

         20                 MR. MCNARY:  Mr. Chairman, members of the

 

         21   Commission, good morning.

 

         22                 COMMISSIONERS:  Good morning.

 

         23                 MR. MCNARY:  General Counsel Chris Hinckley

 

         24   will handle the matter concerning Melody Kirsch.

 

         25                 MR. HINCKLEY:  Good, Mr. Chairman,

 

 

 


 

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          1   Commissioners.

 

          2                 COMMISSIONERS:  Good morning.

 

          3                 MR. HINCKLEY:  If you recall, the case

 

          4   regarding Ms. Melody Kirsch, the Commission Resolution

 

          5   07-051, was raised at last month's Commission meeting and

 

          6   it was tabled.  Ms. Kirsch appeared and requested the

 

          7   matter to be tabled so that she may make inquiries into

 

          8   getting legal representation and beginning the process of

 

          9   possibly having her underlying felony conviction dismissed

 

         10   by the court in which it took place.

 

         11                 I have not spoken to Ms. Kirsch since that

 

         12   time.  I understand, however, that she is present if the

 

         13   Commissioners would like to make an inquiry.

 

         14                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Ms. Kirsch.

 

         15                 MS. KIRSCH:  Good morning.  Thank you.

 

         16                 COMMISSIONERS:  Good morning.

 

         17                 MS. KIRSCH:  I have hired an attorney and

 

         18   found that there will be no overturnment of the decision.

 

         19   The prosecuting attorney, Jane Darst (phonetic sp.), said

 

         20   that that is not a possibility, that she understands my

 

         21   plight, but the suspended imposition of sentence means no

 

         22   conviction.

 

         23                 Apparently I pled guilty to a felony crime

 

         24   even though the crime that I committed was not a felony.

 

         25   We were attempting to steal a case of beer.  The charge

 

 

 


 

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          1   came out attempted stealing over 50.

 

          2                 I was 17 years old, did not have competent

 

          3   counsel, and did not apparently research enough or know

 

          4   what I was doing, signed, agreed that it was a felony,

 

          5   because I was told that I would not have any problems the

 

          6   rest of my life as long as I finished out my probation, no

 

          7   felony conviction, and then here I am today after serving

 

          8   nine years with a gaming license and enjoying my time with

 

          9   the casino.

 

         10                 One of the gentlemen during one of my

 

         11   interviews for my license asked me, said at that time,

 

         12   what -- what changed you?  What decided for you to have

 

         13   judgment and go with the correct people?  I became a

 

         14   mother.  I became a wife.  I became interested in my

 

         15   gaming career.

 

         16                 And I would ask that you consider today the

 

         17   regulations that state I may be denied, which implies I

 

         18   may not be denied.

 

         19                 That's just all it is.

 

         20                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Are there any questions?

 

         21                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Do we have a

 

         22   recommendation from counsel?

 

         23                 MR. HINCKLEY:  The underlying recommendation

 

         24   of Mr. Stephen Stark, based upon the facts presented to

 

         25   him at a hearing, was that the decision of the Commission

 

 

 


 

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          1   dated March 13th of 2006 would be affirmed and that the

 

          2   denial of a license of Ms. Kirsch would be in effect upon

 

          3   an order of the Commission.  And that was due to the facts

 

          4   as they existed then, which are the facts as they exist

 

          5   today.

 

          6                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Does the Commission have

 

          7   any latitude in your opinion?

 

          8                 MR. HINCKLEY:  What Ms. Kirsch referred to,

 

          9   saying that persons committed -- they have been convicted

 

         10   of felonies, that as a result the Commission may refuse an

 

         11   occupational license, is somewhat correct.

 

         12                 However, there is another part of the

 

         13   statute which says that a license shall not be granted to

 

         14   an applicant that has pled guilty to or convicted of a

 

         15   felony.

 

         16                 The part that she was talking about was the

 

         17   Commission may refuse an occupational license when a

 

         18   person has been convicted of a crime or has been found

 

         19   guilty of, pled guilty to or pled nolo contendere to a

 

         20   crime, including such findings or pleas in a suspended

 

         21   imposition of sentence.

 

         22                 That is applicable to all cases of

 

         23   misdemeanors and felonies, and it's for an applicant for a

 

         24   gaming license.

 

         25                 The more controlling law here is the statute

 

 

 


 

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          1   that says that that occupational license shall not be

 

          2   granted.

 

          3                 It was an oversight.  Ms. Kirsch did tell

 

          4   the Commission upon an initial application that she did

 

          5   have this arrest and conviction.  It was not noted that it

 

          6   was a felony, most likely because she did not know.

 

          7                 However, there appears to be no discretion

 

          8   where the Commission would be able to overrule or vary

 

          9   from this law in this case.

 

         10                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  We'd be violating the

 

         11   statute?

 

         12                 MR. HINCKLEY:  Correct.  There is a process

 

         13   by which Ms. Kirsch could appeal the Commission's

 

         14   decision, by appealing the Commission's decision to the

 

         15   Western District Court of Appeals.

 

         16                 They would be just simply once again looking

 

         17   at -- at this time looking at whether or not the

 

         18   Commission had the power to make the decision that it did.

 

         19   If Ms. Kirsch were to ask -- I don't know what the Court

 

         20   of Appeals would do -- but to revisit the facts might be

 

         21   an option.  But, once again, it would be controlled by the

 

         22   law.

 

         23                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Are you saying that the

 

         24   Court of Appeals have been known to revisit facts from

 

         25   time to time?

 

 

 


 

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          1                 MR. HINCKLEY:  Believe it or not, Judge, I

 

          2   think that's occurred.

 

          3                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Okay.

 

          4                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Are there other questions?

 

          5                 Is there a motion?

 

          6                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Mr. Chairman, I would

 

          7   move to approve the Resolution 06-500.

 

          8                 MR. HINCKLEY:  I'm sorry.  Resolution --

 

          9                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  I'm sorry.  The

 

         10   recommendation of the hearing officer denying the

 

         11   occupational license of Ms. Kirsch.

 

         12                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  I second that.

 

         13                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is there further

 

         14   discussion?

 

         15                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Well, let me just add to

 

         16   it.  I understand the equities of this, and I'm

 

         17   sympathetic to it.  And perhaps at one time Ms. Kirsch's

 

         18   remedy might have been a suit in equity, when it was still

 

         19   timely or some type of lawsuit against the gentleman or

 

         20   lady who represented her, the attorney.  I doubt that

 

         21   either of those still exist as adequate remedies.

 

         22                 But I don't think this Commission has any

 

         23   choice but to follow the law that we were sworn to follow,

 

         24   harsh though it may be.

 

         25                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Any further comments?

 

 

 


 

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          1                 Call the roll.

 

          2                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Shull.

 

          3                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Approved.

 

          4                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Jones.

 

          5                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Approved.

 

          6                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hais.

 

          7                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Approved.

 

          8                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Plunkett.

 

          9                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  Approved.

 

         10                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bradley.

 

         11                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  I'd like to say,

 

         12   unfortunately, I must approve the resolution also, being I

 

         13   agree with Commissioner Hais.  I approve it.

 

         14                 MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted

 

         15   Resolution 07-051.

 

         16                 MR. MCNARY:  Did you turn her volume up?

 

         17                 MS. MCCARTHY:  I did.

 

         18                 MR. MCNARY:  Thanks.

 

         19                 Mr. Chairman, the next item will be handled

 

         20   by Hearing Officer Stephen Stark.

 

         21                 MR. STARK:  Good morning, Commissioners.

 

         22                 COMMISSIONERS:  Good morning.

 

         23                 MR. STARK:  The first case for me is

 

         24   Mr. Carnell Stevenson.

 

         25                 Mr. Stevenson made application for a

 

 

 


 

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          1   Level II occupational license with the Gaming Commission.

 

          2   As part of that application process he had a duty to

 

          3   reveal any type of criminal activity.  He did disclose

 

          4   three different incidents involving arrests.

 

          5                 As part of the application process, the

 

          6   Gaming Commission does investigate, does their background

 

          7   check, getting further records from the FBI and the

 

          8   Highway Patrol.

 

          9                 And it was found out that Mr. Stevenson did

 

         10   fail to reveal, failed to disclose on his application, two

 

         11   items of a criminal record, one being a July 29th, 1990

 

         12   arrest for robbery, second degree, and also a May 26th,

 

         13   1994 assault, third degree, by the St. Louis Police

 

         14   Department.

 

         15                 The Commission made a denial of his

 

         16   application for his occupational license.  Mr. Stevenson

 

         17   requested the hearing.  We did conduct the hearing.

 

         18                 The evidence clearly showed that there were

 

         19   these two particular criminal activities of record

 

         20   attributed to Mr. Stevenson.

 

         21                 Mr. Stevenson indicated that he did not

 

         22   remember the incident with regard to the July 29th, 1990

 

         23   robbery.  As regards to the 1994 assault, he did remember

 

         24   that as being a fight with his sister.  His sister did not

 

         25   press charges.  He was not taken to the police station, so

 

 

 


 

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          1   he felt that he was not arrested and that was nothing for

 

          2   him to disclose on his application.

 

          3                 However, the Commission application process

 

          4   does go through great efforts to warn that the term

 

          5   "arrest" is very expansive.

 

          6                 In fact, there are several different forms

 

          7   in the application in which the applicant signs indicating

 

          8   that they understand how the Gaming Commission is defining

 

          9   arrest, and it includes detained, held, taken into custody

 

         10   for questioning, whether or not there was any criminal

 

         11   charges made.

 

         12                 And it also includes the idea that if there

 

         13   is a conviction or arrest record, even if it's a closed

 

         14   record or a record that has been expunged, that there is a

 

         15   need to disclose that information as well.

 

         16                 After Mr. Stevenson did receive his denial

 

         17   letter, he did go to the police department to confirm the

 

         18   records, and the police department records did show him

 

         19   that there was no record of conviction.

 

         20                 So there was a big discussion about closed

 

         21   records, but, nevertheless, the warning in the application

 

         22   process is that even closed records have to be disclosed

 

         23   as part of the application process.

 

         24                 So, therefore, I conclude and my

 

         25   recommendation is that Mr. Stevenson failed to meet his

 

 

 


 

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          1   burden of clear and convincing evidence that he would be

 

          2   deemed suitable for licensure because of his failure to

 

          3   disclose two past criminal incidents and, therefore, the

 

          4   Commission's action to deny him his license should be

 

          5   affirmed.

 

          6                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is Mr. Stevenson in the

 

          7   audience and would he care to speak?

 

          8                 Are there any questions of Mr. Stark?

 

          9                 Is there a motion?

 

         10                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  I make the motion we

 

         11   approve Resolution 07-052.

 

         12                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Second.

 

         13                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Further discussion?

 

         14                 Call the roll.

 

         15                 MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Shull.

 

         16                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Approved.

 

         17                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Jones.

 

         18                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Approved.

 

         19                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hais.

 

         20                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Approved.

 

         21                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Plunkett.

 

         22                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  Approved.

 

         23                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bradley.

 

         24                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Approved.

 

         25                 MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted

 

 

 


 

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          1   Resolution No. 07-052.

 

          2                 MR. STARK:  Thank you.

 

          3                 The next case is the case of Billy Hicks.

 

          4   Again, this is an application, failure to disclose past

 

          5   criminal records.

 

          6                 Mr. Hicks made his application.  He did

 

          7   disclose some prior offenses, but after investigation,

 

          8   after submission of the application, the Commission did

 

          9   find two arrest records, one in 1981 in San Diego,

 

         10   California for assault with a deadly weapon and a second

 

         11   arrest for receiving stolen property in January of 1997.

 

         12                 Mr. Hicks was a very credible witness.  He

 

         13   did indicate that the incident out in San Diego was --

 

         14   basically he was in a crowd and a fight broke out.

 

         15   Everybody was taken to the police station at that time.

 

         16   It was something he just merely forgot about.

 

         17                 With regard to the second arrest with regard

 

         18   to stolen property, Mr. Hicks was a manager of a furniture

 

         19   store, and he explained that his assistant manager

 

         20   actually was the recipient of the stolen property.

 

         21                 The law enforcement basically told him, if

 

         22   you just return that property to the rightful owner, the

 

         23   situation will be resolved completely.  He did admit,

 

         24   however, they did take him to the police station.

 

         25                 Based upon the regulatory authority of the

 

 

 


 

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          1   Commission, legal authority does exist for a denial of an

 

          2   application -- denial of an application for licensure for

 

          3   failure to disclose past criminal records, whether it was

 

          4   forgotten, whether it was somebody else involved.  Just a

 

          5   mere arrest, questioning by the police, counts as

 

          6   something that needs to be disclosed.

 

          7                 Mr. Hicks failed to disclose that among his

 

          8   application and, therefore, my conclusion and

 

          9   recommendation is that the Commission's decision to deny

 

         10   Mr. Hicks' license is appropriate and should be affirmed.

 

         11                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Are there any questions for

 

         12   Mr. Stark?

 

         13                 Is Mr. Hicks in the audience and care to

 

         14   speak?

 

         15                 Mr. Hinckley, do you have any comments

 

         16   regarding this case?

 

         17                 MR. HINCKLEY:  I believe that the two

 

         18   arrests, one occurred in St. Louis County and one occurred

 

         19   in San Diego.  The applicant went so far as to do a

 

         20   criminal -- make a criminal background check inquiry with

 

         21   St. Louis County and through the Internet for a nationwide

 

         22   criminal background check, which I believe was probably

 

         23   the only way for him to make such a check.

 

         24                 They did both come back no records, and that

 

         25   was -- and I agree with the hearing officer, that I did

 

 

 


 

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          1   find Mr. Hicks to be credible, and the documents did

 

          2   support what he had done prior to filling out his

 

          3   application.

 

          4                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Does the Commission have

 

          5   the latitude with regard to this case?

 

          6                 MR. HINCKLEY:  Yes, the Commission does have

 

          7   some latitude with regard to an applicant as these were

 

          8   not felony convictions as I read to you before.

 

          9   You may, not shall, deny the license.

 

         10                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  And you did find Mr. Hicks

 

         11   to be a credible witness?

 

         12                 MR. HINCKLEY:  I did.

 

         13                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Are there any other

 

         14   questions?

 

         15                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  How did the Commission's

 

         16   investigation turn it up if it wasn't a matter of record

 

         17   with municipal --

 

         18                 MR. STARK:  My understanding is that the FBI

 

         19   and the Highway Patrol, the Missouri Highway Patrol,

 

         20   maintains all records; whereas, the local jurisdiction may

 

         21   expunge records or close them for privacy concerns and,

 

         22   therefore, not reveal it to anybody that walks in the

 

         23   door.

 

         24                 So the database of the FBI and the Highway

 

         25   Patrol is much more comprehensive and maintains everything

 

 

 


 

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          1   as opposed to having anything expunged from the record.

 

          2                 So with that, the Commission is able to access

 

          3   that information, they've got it all basically.

 

          4                 MR. HINCKLEY:  I guess to follow up, from

 

          5   his position, I'm not sure that he could have entered that

 

          6   and tracked it through the St. Louis County record check.

 

          7   It's not sure that the arrest will come up, and as a

 

          8   result he mistakenly believed that, therefore, he did not

 

          9   recall any arrests and that, therefore, no arrests took

 

         10   place.

 

         11                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  And the disposition of

 

         12   the stolen property case was that there was no

 

         13   prosecution?

 

         14                 MR. STARK:  That's my understanding.

 

         15                 He and his assistant manager were merely

 

         16   taken to the police station, told to just return it to the

 

         17   rightful owner and we'll forget about it.

 

         18                 But apparently the police officer made a

 

         19   report, called it an arrest, submitted it into whatever

 

         20   database there is that the FBI and Highway Patrol were

 

         21   able to capture.

 

         22                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  The police officer

 

         23   called it an arrest but they were not actually

 

         24   incarcerated --

 

         25                 MR. STARK:  That's my understanding.

 

 

 


 

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          1                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  -- no bond made, none of

 

          2   the formal --

 

          3                 MR. STARK:  No.

 

          4                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  How about with the other

 

          5   one?

 

          6                 MR. STARK:  The San Diego one, I'm not sure.

 

          7   I don't think that actually came up, that he was taken to

 

          8   the police station in a crowd, and I'm sure there was some

 

          9   type of processing done, but I don't recall if there was

 

         10   any overnight stay.

 

         11                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Are there any other

 

         12   details what this crowd was about?

 

         13                 MR. STARK:  Not that I recall.  It was just

 

         14   a street --

 

         15                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Was it inside of an

 

         16   establishment, like a bar or something, or was it --

 

         17                 MR. STARK:  I think it was after hours,

 

         18   after the bar closed, probably.

 

         19                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  I see.

 

         20                 Is that based on what was in the written

 

         21   report?

 

         22                 MR. STARK:  That's my remembrance of his

 

         23   explanation.  I didn't write it in the report.

 

         24                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Do you have it there,

 

         25   Mr. Hinckley?

 

 

 


 

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          1                 MR. HINCKLEY:  I believe any explanation

 

          2   would have been from Mr. Hicks in the transcript of the

 

          3   hearing and that could be --

 

          4                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  There was no police

 

          5   report that was generated as a result --

 

          6                 MR. HINCKLEY:  Of the San Diego incident?

 

          7                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  -- of the altercation?

 

          8   Yes.

 

          9                 MR. HINCKLEY:  I did not see -- we did not

 

         10   have -- we do not possess that, and Mr. Hicks did not

 

         11   present a copy of such report.

 

         12                 It's likely that on that occasion in 1981 --

 

         13   I'm sorry.  He may have been arrested and printed on that

 

         14   occasion more formally, let's say, than the county

 

         15   incident.

 

         16                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Is that a fact or is

 

         17   that your supposition?

 

         18                 MR. HINCKLEY:  It's my supposition, Judge.

 

         19                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Based on anything that

 

         20   would lead a person to suppose that?

 

         21                 MR. HINCKLEY:  Excuse me.

 

         22                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Sure.  Take your time.

 

         23                 MR. HINCKLEY:  My understanding is that if

 

         24   you're printed, which is a formal booking process than

 

         25   detention, and if the national search done by the FBI by

 

 

 


 

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          1   the -- through the Highway Patrol brings up the arrest,

 

          2   then the person was fingerprinted.

 

          3                 And if you'd look on the criminal history

 

          4   check, it appears that on the national check, the national

 

          5   FBI check, that only the San Diego arrest showed up.

 

          6                 On the Missouri State Highway Patrol

 

          7   criminal history record, it shows the '97 receiving stolen

 

          8   property.

 

          9                 So the arrests appeared in two separate

 

         10   different criminal background checks.  The criteria for

 

         11   appearing in each one would be somewhat different or the

 

         12   same.

 

         13                 MR. MCNARY:  Does our application speak to

 

         14   having been processed --

 

         15                 MR. HINCKLEY:  No --

 

         16                 MR. MCNARY:  -- photographed or printed?

 

         17                 MR. HINCKLEY:  No.  The term "arrest" is

 

         18   expansive.  Detention would be -- would qualify for an

 

         19   arrest.

 

         20                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Does Mr. Hicks have a --

 

         21   prior to '06 does he have a work history in the gaming

 

         22   industry?

 

         23                 MR. HINCKLEY:  I don't recall from the

 

         24   hearing.  It would usually be reflected on his license,

 

         25   but I don't recall if he said that he had worked in the

 

 

 


 

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          1   industry prior to '06.

 

          2                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  And he's presently employed

 

          3   at Harrah's?  Is that --

 

          4                 MR. HINCKLEY:  I believe so.

 

          5                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  And he was notified of

 

          6   this hearing today?

 

          7                 MR. HINCKLEY:  He was.

 

          8                 MS. FRANKS:  Yes.

 

          9                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  I take it Mr. Hicks

 

         10   is not present today?

 

         11                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  No, he isn't.

 

         12                 Are there any further comments?

 

         13                 MR. STARK:  I was going to offer that at the

 

         14   hearing Mr. Hicks explained that the 1990 -- or 1981

 

         15   fight:  Back in '81 I was in the military and my roommate

 

         16   got in a fight, and I had blood on me when the police

 

         17   showed up and it looked like I had done something.  I was

 

         18   there just like I'm here now.  We all got arrested.

 

         19                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  My only problem with

 

         20   this is that there are factors weighing on both sides, but

 

         21   for a couple of problems I would be inclined to move that

 

         22   it not be approved.

 

         23                 The problems I have are these, that, No. 1,

 

         24   Mr. Hicks is not here today.  And while that doesn't

 

         25   necessarily in and of itself create an inference of any --

 

 

 


 

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          1   you know, any negative inference, it's not helpful to him,

 

          2   I think, and does -- whether or not it creates an

 

          3   inference in the law, it creates an inference in kind of

 

          4   an informal feeling of a lack of interest in this.

 

          5                 Secondly, although the behaviors that are

 

          6   evidenced in these arrests are not the kinds of things

 

          7   that one would normally associate with the kind of person

 

          8   who would definitely without any debate be considered to

 

          9   be wrong for this industry, they're not the kinds of

 

         10   things you forget typically.

 

         11                 I mean, I don't think the average person

 

         12   would be involved in a bloody altercation and forget about

 

         13   it, or the other one either for that matter.

 

         14                 So I'll just move that it be approved and

 

         15   the Commission is free to do as it sees fit, as it always

 

         16   does.

 

         17                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  It's been moved.  Is there

 

         18   a second?

 

         19                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  I'll second.

 

         20                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is there further

 

         21   discussion?

 

         22                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Let me just say -- let

 

         23   me just also add this one thing.

 

         24                 On the one hand -- it's always a balancing

 

         25   act.  And on the one hand there is the -- there is the

 

 

 


 

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          1   feeling that one's livelihood shouldn't be deprived to

 

          2   that person because of some unfortunate and humanly

 

          3   understandable error.  I'm very sympathetic to that.

 

          4                 But on the other hand, again, he's not here

 

          5   and we don't know why, and there are telephones and other

 

          6   forms of communication if there were some emergency that

 

          7   prevented him from being here.

 

          8                 And then secondly, the second point I

 

          9   raised, while this isn't the kind of egregious conduct

 

         10   that typifies a criminal nature, the gaming industry

 

         11   deserves better, I think.  The gaming industry deserves

 

         12   people who are upstanding.

 

         13                 And it's already an industry that in the

 

         14   minds of some uninformed people is suspect.  That was

 

         15   evidenced by the difficulty with which it was passed in

 

         16   the first place.

 

         17                 So I think everything that this Commission

 

         18   can do to ensure that the -- those who work in the

 

         19   industry are upstanding is our responsibility.  I'll leave

 

         20   it with that.

 

         21                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  The only comment I have

 

         22   about it, regarding it is, is that Mr. Hicks did attempt

 

         23   to determine if these instances or arrests were

 

         24   reported -- were reportable, and when he made the inquiry

 

         25   and it came back, it's possible in my mind that he

 

 

 


 

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          1   thought, well, I'm relying on good information and,

 

          2   therefore, I won't report it.  And as you pointed out,

 

          3   they are sort of iffy issues, so . . .

 

          4                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  I agree with that,

 

          5   Mr. Chairman.  And I would just add that my motion to

 

          6   approve it should not be interpreted in any way to be

 

          7   attempting to influence anyone else on the Commission, and

 

          8   I think that there are -- this is a very, very tough one,

 

          9   but the issue needs to be resolved and both sides need to

 

         10   be flushed out, and I think that we did that.

 

         11                 However the Commission votes, I think it's

 

         12   been fully explored.

 

         13                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  I agree.

 

         14                 Would you call the roll.

 

         15                 MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Shull.

 

         16                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Disapproved.

 

         17                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Jones.

 

         18                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Disapproved.

 

         19                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hais.

 

         20                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Approved.

 

         21                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Plunkett.

 

         22                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  Approved.

 

         23                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bradley.

 

         24                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Approved.

 

         25                 MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted

 

 

 


 

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          1   Resolution No. 07-053.

 

          2                 MR. STARK:  Commissioners, the next case is

 

          3   Ms. Ollina Boaz.

 

          4                 Ms. Boaz made application for an

 

          5   occupational license.  Again, going through the

 

          6   application process, she did answer the question with

 

          7   regard to any criminal past history, indicating that she

 

          8   did have one offense, driving with a suspended license.

 

          9                 Again, the investigation by the Commission

 

         10   was conducted and revealed an item that was not disclosed,

 

         11   a May 3rd, 2005 arrest by the East St. Louis Police

 

         12   Department for possession of the drug LSD.  That failure

 

         13   to disclose does constitute a basis for denying an

 

         14   application.

 

         15                 Ms. Boaz at the hearing -- and I believe she

 

         16   was very, very credible -- explained that she was with her

 

         17   boyfriend.  Her boyfriend was the one in possession of the

 

         18   drugs.  The police just brought both of them to the police

 

         19   station.

 

         20                 The boyfriend was handcuffed but Ms. Boaz

 

         21   was not handcuffed.  She was interrogated at the police

 

         22   station, but no charges were brought against her

 

         23   individually but, rather, against her boyfriend.

 

         24                 So her thought process was that it was not

 

         25   her crime but rather the boyfriend's crime and, therefore,

 

 

 


 

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          1   she did not reveal it on the application.

 

          2                 However, again, the application process

 

          3   repeatedly indicates that arrest includes any questioning

 

          4   by the police, detention by the police.  So she had the

 

          5   opportunity after discussions with the investigator, after

 

          6   reading the application, to reveal this arrest in

 

          7   conjunction with her boyfriend's arrest as part of the

 

          8   application process.  She failed to do that.

 

          9                 Grounds adequately exist for the Commission

 

         10   to deny Ms. Boaz the license to work in the gaming

 

         11   industry, and based upon the law and those facts, that

 

         12   would be my recommendation, that the license be denied.

 

         13                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Are there any questions for

 

         14   Mr. Stark?

 

         15                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Is there anything in

 

         16   that report which indicates that she was free to leave?

 

         17                 MR. STARK:  No.

 

         18                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Nothing else.

 

         19                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is Ms. Boaz present and

 

         20   would she care to speak?

 

         21                 Is there a motion?

 

         22                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  I make a motion we

 

         23   approve 07-054.

 

         24                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Second.

 

         25                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is there further

 

 

 


 

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          1   discussion?

 

          2                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Steve, I've got a

 

          3   question.

 

          4                 Looking back at the testimony, just the fact

 

          5   that when she stated that, you know, she did not think

 

          6   that she was under arrest, is that within our parameters

 

          7   that -- I mean, because she was not charged.

 

          8                 I mean, kind of like in the last two, is the

 

          9   same kind of a thing.  I'd kind of like a little -- maybe

 

         10   someone could address that for me.

 

         11                 MR. STARK:  Yes, Commissioner Bradley.  The

 

         12   Commission does have discretion with regard to this type

 

         13   of case, failure to disclose information on the

 

         14   application.

 

         15                 The regulation which is cited as Conclusion

 

         16   of Law No. 3 in my recommendation is that the Commission

 

         17   may refuse an occupational license to any person who fails

 

         18   to disclose information called for in the application

 

         19   process.  So the word "may" does give discretion that the

 

         20   application can be denied or be accepted.

 

         21                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  And also, further, as

 

         22   I see in this -- in your findings of fact, this is the

 

         23   only -- she had nothing else on her record.  Is that

 

         24   correct?

 

         25                 MR. STARK:  That was not disclosed, that's

 

 

 


 

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          1   correct.  She did have on her record, what she did

 

          2   disclose, is the driving offense with the suspended

 

          3   license.  So just those two items, the one that was

 

          4   disclosed and the one that was not disclosed.

 

          5                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  And has she been

 

          6   working -- what's her -- anything else in the gaming

 

          7   arena?

 

          8                 MR. STARK:  I think at the time of the

 

          9   hearing she was presently working.  She had a temporary

 

         10   license.

 

         11                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Okay.

 

         12                 MR. STARK:  But I don't know what her

 

         13   history before that was.

 

         14                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Is she working now?

 

         15                 MR. STARK:  I don't know about now, today's

 

         16   date, no.

 

         17                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Okay.

 

         18                 Okay.  Thank you.

 

         19                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Are there any other

 

         20   questions?

 

         21                 Is there a motion?

 

         22                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Would you mind calling

 

         23   for some discussion, because I have a very brief thought

 

         24   that I want to put on the record?

 

         25                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Certainly.  Go ahead.

 

 

 


 

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          1   Continue.

 

          2                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Mr. Chairman, I just

 

          3   want to -- for the record, I just want to say this:  We've

 

          4   had a couple of these cases here this morning.  And there

 

          5   is an abstract concept.  They're troubling because -- or

 

          6   at least a couple of these have been, because they present

 

          7   the choice that a Commission like this has between showing

 

          8   some type of acknowledgement of the frailty of human

 

          9   memory and the imperfections of human nature.

 

         10                 And when you put that against the relative

 

         11   lack of gravity of the charges that are underlying, there

 

         12   is a tendency to have the opinion from a human standpoint

 

         13   that the greater harm would be to deprive someone of

 

         14   livelihood in this particular industry.

 

         15                 On the other hand, this Commission has a

 

         16   reputation, I'm told, and have been told since joining

 

         17   this Commission, of an excellent reputation in this nation

 

         18   because of its adherence to a strict set of principles,

 

         19   the point of which is to protect the gaming industry and

 

         20   the people of Missouri from any allegation or accusation

 

         21   or criticism that it is allowing any type of laxity in the

 

         22   administration of the gaming industry, which is a -- which

 

         23   is an industry which as we all know, speaking plainly, has

 

         24   attracted problems in the past in the nature of criminal

 

         25   activity.

 

 

 


 

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          1                 And so I think -- I think the Commission may

 

          2   want to consider, for what it's worth, the advisability of

 

          3   coming down on the side of keeping -- keeping these types

 

          4   of matters as strictly adhered to as possible in the --

 

          5   for the reason that we're setting a precedent.

 

          6                 And if, for example, we should happen to

 

          7   have one of these cases come along next week, I mean, next

 

          8   month or sometime in the future where someone is said to

 

          9   have failed to report a crime of possessing an incendiary

 

         10   device or something that is especially timely because of

 

         11   the nature of current events, we would have a terrible

 

         12   time explaining the inconsistency.

 

         13                 And I think that for that reason I would

 

         14   move to approve Resolution 07-054.

 

         15                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Second.

 

         16                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is there further

 

         17   discussion?

 

         18                 Call the roll.

 

         19                 MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Shull.

 

         20                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Approved.

 

         21                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Jones.

 

         22                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Approved.

 

         23                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hais.

 

         24                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Approved.

 

         25                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Plunkett.

 

 

 


 

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          1                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  Approved.

 

          2                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bradley.

 

          3                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Approved.

 

          4                 MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted

 

          5   Resolution No. 07-054.

 

          6                 MR. STARK:  Thank you very much,

 

          7   Commissioner.

 

          8                 MR. MCNARY:  Mr. Chairman, Relicensure of

 

          9   Supplies will be handled by Lieutenant Gary Moore.

 

         10                 LIEUTENANT MOORE:  Good morning.

 

         11                 COMMISSIONER:  Good morning.

 

         12                 LIEUTENANT MOORE:  Mr. Chairman and

 

         13   Commissioners, the relicensing background investigation

 

         14   was conducted on the following supplier companies with no

 

         15   derogatory information discovered.

 

         16                 The first one is WMS.  They design and

 

         17   manufacture video and reel spinning slot machines.  The

 

         18   second one is Midwest Game Supply, a producer of certified

 

         19   dice.  They also offer custom table game layouts and high

 

         20   tech slot machines.  And the third one is Shuffle Master,

 

         21   specializing in automatic card shufflers, roulette chip

 

         22   sorters and traditional video slot machines.

 

         23                 Thank you.

 

         24                 MR. MCNARY:  Mr. Chairman, we recommend

 

         25   relicensure of the suppliers.

 

 

 


 

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          1                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Any questions or a motion

 

          2   to approve?

 

          3                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Move to approve

 

          4   Resolution Nos. 07-055, 07-056, 07-057.

 

          5                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Second.

 

          6                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is there further

 

          7   discussion?

 

          8                 Call the roll, please.

 

          9                 MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Shull.

 

         10                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Approved.

 

         11                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Jones.

 

         12                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Approved.

 

         13                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hais.

 

         14                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Approved.

 

         15                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Plunkett.

 

         16                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  Approved.

 

         17                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bradley.

 

         18                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Approved.

 

         19                 MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted

 

         20   Resolution Nos. 07-055, 07-056 and 07-057.

 

         21                 MR. MCNARY:  Item IV, Mr. Chairman, is

 

         22   Licensure of Certain Level I/Key Applicants, and

 

         23   Lieutenant Gary Moore will handle that.

 

         24                 LIEUTENANT MOORE:  Mr. Chairman and

 

         25   Commissioners, the Highway Patrol and Gaming Commission

 

 

 


 

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          1   investigators conducted background investigations on the

 

          2   following Key Person and Level I applicants.  The

 

          3   investigations included, but were not limited to,

 

          4   criminal, financial and general character inquiries.

 

          5                 Our Key Person is Duncan M. McKenzie,

 

          6   Regional Vice-President of Operation, Isle of Capri

 

          7   Casino, Inc.

 

          8                 Under Level I we have Joseph M. Robertson,

 

          9   Director of Security, Ameristar Casino, St. Charles,

 

         10   Missouri; La Sandra G. King, Southern Regional Internal

 

         11   Audit Director, Penn National Gaming, Inc.; Montgomery R.

 

         12   Terhune, Vice-President of Finance, Ameristar Casino,

 

         13   St. Charles, Missouri.

 

         14                 The results of the investigations were

 

         15   provided to the Gaming Commission staff for their review

 

         16   and recommendation.

 

         17                 Thank you.

 

         18                 MR. MCNARY:  Mr. Chairman, we recommend

 

         19   licensure of these Key applicants.

 

         20                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is there a motion?

 

         21                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  I make a motion we

 

         22   approve Resolution 07-058.

 

         23                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Second.

 

         24                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is there further

 

         25   discussion?

 

 

 


 

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          1                 Call the roll, please.

 

          2                 MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Shull.

 

          3                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Approved.

 

          4                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Jones.

 

          5                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Approved.

 

          6                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hais.

 

          7                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Approved.

 

          8                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Plunkett.

 

          9                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  Approved.

 

         10                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bradley.

 

         11                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Approved.

 

         12                 MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted

 

         13   Resolution No. 07-058.

 

         14                 MR. MCNARY:  Mr. Chairman, Item VI is

 

         15   Consideration of Extension of Liquor License for Harrah's

 

         16   North Kansas City, and General Counsel Hinckley will

 

         17   present that.

 

         18                 MR. HINCKLEY:  Mr. Chairman, Commissioners,

 

         19   the Class A licensee Harrah's North Kansas City has

 

         20   applied to the Gaming Commission for renewal of its liquor

 

         21   license, and with that renewal has requested to extend the

 

         22   hours in which it serves intoxicating liquor in nine

 

         23   gaming areas to 3:00 a.m.

 

         24                 The Harrah's North Kansas City resides in

 

         25   the City of North Kansas City and is considered to be

 

 

 


 

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          1   within a convention trade area as designated by

 

          2   North Kansas City ordinance, a copy of which is contained

 

          3   in your notebooks, and as defined by the statute --

 

          4   Missouri Statute 311.174.

 

          5                 And the City of North Kansas City has a

 

          6   3:00 a.m. closing time for liquor sales in the

 

          7   North Kansas City convention trade area.  Therefore,

 

          8   requiring -- fulfilling all of the requirements for

 

          9   requesting -- or making this request and this resolution.

 

         10                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Are there any further

 

         11   questions for Mr. Hinckley?

 

         12                 Is there a motion?

 

         13                 Excuse me.  Go ahead.

 

         14                 MR. MCNARY:  No.  We have -- we recommend

 

         15   that they've complied with all of the requirements, and we

 

         16   recommend that their license be extended and to include

 

         17   3:00 a.m. on the premises.

 

         18                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Mr. Chairman, I would

 

         19   move the approval of Commission Resolution 07-059.

 

         20                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Second.

 

         21                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is there further

 

         22   discussion?

 

         23                 Call the roll, please.

 

         24                 MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Shull.

 

         25                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Approved.

 

 

 


 

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          1                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Jones.

 

          2                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Approved.

 

          3                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hais.

 

          4                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Approved.

 

          5                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Plunkett.

 

          6                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  Approved.

 

          7                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bradley.

 

          8                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Approved.

 

          9                 MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted

 

         10   Resolution No. 07-059.

 

         11                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  That concludes this

 

         12   meeting.

 

         13                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Mr. Chairman, I move to

 

         14   close this meeting to receive, discuss and consider the

 

         15   following matters:  closed minutes or other closed records

 

         16   under Section 610.021(14) and 313.847.1.

 

         17                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Is there a second?

 

         18                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Second.

 

         19                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Further discussion.

 

         20                 Call the roll.

 

         21                 MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Shull.

 

         22                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Approved.

 

         23                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Jones.

 

         24                 COMMISSIONER JONES:  Approved.

 

         25                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hais.

 

 

 


 

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          1                 COMMISSIONER HAIS:  Approved.

 

          2                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Plunkett.

 

          3                 COMMISSIONER PLUNKETT:  Approved.

 

          4                 MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bradley.

 

          5                 COMMISSIONER BRADLEY:  Approved.

 

          6                 CHAIRMAN SHULL:  Thank you.

 

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          4                     CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER

 

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          6              I, Patricia A. Stewart, RMR, RPR, CCR, a

 

          7   Certified Court Reporter in the State of Missouri, do

 

          8   hereby certify that the testimony that appears in the

 

          9   foregoing transcript was taken by me to the best of my

 

         10   ability and thereafter reduced to typewriting by me; that

 

         11   I am neither counsel for, related to, nor employed by any

 

         12   of the parties to the action in which this hearing was

 

         13   taken, and further that I am not a relative or employee of

 

         14   any attorney or counsel employed by the parties thereto,

 

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         20                           Patricia A. Stewart

 

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