1                BEFORE THE GAMING COMMISSION

                            STATE OF MISSOURI

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                              OPEN MEETING

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                              JUNE 26, 2003

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     8                   University of Missouri

                              School of Law

     9                 203 Hulston Hall, Room 112

                           Columbia, Missouri 

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    14   COMMISSION MEMBERS:  ROBERT SMITH, Chairman

                              FLOYD O. BARTCH

    15                        JUDITH SUTTER-HINRICHS

                              JACK GANT

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    20   REPORTED BY: 

        

    21             STEPHANIE L. KURTZ MORGAN, RPR, CCR

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    23               Jefferson City, Missouri 65102

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     1                          I N D E X

        

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         I.     Call to Order                               4

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         II.    Consideration of Minutes

     4          A.  April 29, 2003                          4

                B.  May 13, 2003                            5

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         III.   Consideration of Hearing Officer

     6          Recommendations

                C.  William F. Dilley                       6

     7              1.  Resolution No. 03-055

                D.  William E. Fry                          9

     8              1.  Resolution No. 03-056

                E.  Jeanie Libel                           30

     9              1.  Resolution No. 03-057

                F.  Ingrid G. Smith                        37

    10              1.  Resolution No. 03-058

                G.  Leona A. Yardley                       39

    11              1.  Resolution No. 03-059

        

    12   IV.    Consideration of Relicensure of Certain

                Class A Licensees

    13          H.  Mark Twain Casino, L.L.C               43

                    1.  Resolution No. 03-060

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         V.     Consideration of Certain Level I/Key Applicants

    15          I.  Resolution No. 03-061                  73

        

    16   VI.    Presentation of New GIR/NOV/Discipline Process

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         VII.   Consideration of Rules & Regulations      

    18          J.  Proposed Amendment                     

                    1.  11 CSR 45-13.010 -                121

    19                  All Types of Hearings            

                    2.  11 CSR 45-13.020 -                123

    20                   Hearing Officer                  

                    3.  11 CSR 45-13.030 -                128

    21                  Requests for Hearings             

                    4.  11 CSR 45-13.045 -                131

    22                  Suitability Hearings for

                        Gaming Applicants and Exclusion

    23                  Hearings

                    5.  11 CSR 45-13.050 -                133

    24                  Disciplinary Actions

                        Against Gaming Licensees

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     1                    I N D E X (CONTINUED)

        

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                    6.  11 CSR 45-13.051 -                136  

     3                  Bingo Hearings

                    7.  11 CSR 45-13.060 -                137

     4                  Proceedings

                    8.  11 CSR 45-13.070 -                139  

     5                  Transmittal of Record and

                        Recommendation to the Commission

     6              9.  11 CSR 45-13.080 -                149

                        Prohibition of

     7                  Ex Parte Communications

        

     8   VIII.  Legislative Update                         

        

     9   IX.    Closed Session                             

        

    10   X.     Adjournment                               162

                                                       

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     1                    P R O C E E D I N G S

        

     2            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  I get a chance to tell all of

        

     3   you lawyers to sit down and keep quiet.  I won't get a

        

     4   chance to do that again.

        

     5            COMMISSIONER GANT:  I get to do that all the

        

     6   time.

        

     7            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  That's right.  Well, if you

        

     8   call the roll -- where are you, Angie? 

        

     9            MS. ANGIE FRANKS:  Chairman Smith? 

         

    10            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Present. 

        

    11            MS.FRANKS:  Commissioner Bartch? 

        

    12            COMMISSIONER BARTCH:  Present.

        

    13            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hinrichs? 

        

    14            COMMISSIONER HINRICHS:  Present. 

        

    15            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Gant? 

        

    16            COMMISSIONER GANT:  Present.

        

    17            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Welcome everybody to the law

        

    18   school on behalf of the Gaming Commission.

        

    19   And let's see, the first order of business is the

        

    20   consideration of the minutes of the meeting of

        

    21   April 29, 2003. 

        

    22            Any corrections?

        

    23            COMMISSIONER HINRICHS:  I would move that we

        

    24   approve those minutes.

        

    25            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Motion to approve the

        

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     1   minutes. 

        

     2            Is there a second? 

        

     3            COMMISSIONER GANT:  Second.

        

     4            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Call roll. 

        

     5            MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Smith? 

        

     6            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  In favor. 

        

     7            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bartch? 

        

     8            COMMISSIONER BARTCH:  Favor. 

        

     9            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hinrichs? 

        

    10            COMMISSIONER HINRICHS:  Favor. 

        

    11            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Gant? 

        

    12            COMMISSIONER GANT:  Favor. 

        

    13            MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted the

        

    14   minutes of the April 29, 2003 meeting.

        

    15            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Next one is consideration of

        

    16   minutes of May 13, 2003.  Anybody have any

        

    17   corrections on those minutes?

        

    18            COMMISSIONER GANT:  I move they be approved.

        

    19            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  We have a motion to approve

        

    20   the minutes of May 13, 2003. 

        

    21            Is there a second? 

        

    22            COMMISSIONER HINRICHS:  Second.

        

    23            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Call roll. 

        

    24            MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Smith? 

        

    25            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  In favor. 

        

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     1            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bartch? 

        

     2            COMMISSIONER BARTCH:  Favor. 

        

     3            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hinrichs? 

        

     4            COMMISSIONER HINRICHS:  Favor. 

        

     5            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Gant? 

        

     6            COMMISSIONER GANT:  Favor. 

        

     7            MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted the

        

     8   minutes of the May 13, 2003 meeting.

        

     9            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Okay.  The next item of

        

    10   business is consideration of hearing officer

        

    11   recommendations.  This is the Thad McCanse show today, I

        

    12   notice.

        

    13            MR. THAD McCANSE:  I'll try to make it brief and

        

    14   enlightening, I guess. 

        

    15            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Well, we would hope so.

        

    16            MR. McCANSE:  In the first case --

        

    17            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  You've started on an unusual

        

    18   day.

        

    19            MR. McCANSE:  This is a case where -- I

        

    20   think all of these cases today were re-assigned after

        

    21   Hearing Officer Yost had left the Commission employment

        

    22   and been on his own.  These cases were assigned to me

        

    23   and they're all pretty old.

        

    24            The first one we had quite a bit of

        

    25   correspondence with, Mr. Dilly, who wanted a telephone

        

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     1   hearing because he was out in New Mexico, I believe.

        

     2            But when we got to finally looking at the

        

     3   records, we discovered that the action to revoke his

        

     4   license started after his license had already been

        

     5   terminated -- it had already expired.

        

     6            So Mr. Bradley, on a motion to dismiss, decided

        

     7   Hearing Officer Kevin Mullally's decision in Struse

         

     8   (phonetic sp.) v. Missouri Gaming Commission -- and

        

     9   he said that there was no jurisdiction.  And I agree. 

        

    10            I wasn't going to disagree with Mr. Mullally

        

    11   anyhow, but he's entirely right.

        

    12            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  This is the first time --

        

    13   Mike said it's the first time that his decisions have

        

    14   ever come up here as precedent, so I'm glad that they

        

    15   finally found one that you can rely on.

        

    16            MR. KEVIN MULLALLY:  He looked long and hard.

        

    17            MR. McCANSE:  But this is a

        

    18   jurisdictional matter.  We don't have any authority

        

    19   over the man since he was not -- did not have a license

        

    20   at the time we started the action to revoke it.

        

    21            So I have asked that the motion to dismiss be

        

    22   sustained on jurisdictional grounds.

         

    23            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Any questions concerning this

        

    24   particular matter?

        

    25            (No response.)

        

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     1            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  I just had one question, just

        

     2   more of a procedural one.  As I understand, this person

        

     3   didn't appear and the ruling is made.

        

     4            And what procedure do we have if someone

        

     5   doesn't attend a hearing?  How are they notified of the

        

     6   decision of the hearing officer and the Commission? 

        

     7            MR. MULLALLY:  I'll let Mike Bushmann, General

        

     8   Counsel, speak to that.  We've had a change in

        

     9   procedure there.

        

    10            MR. MIKE BUSHMANN:  Well, the --

        

    11            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Is the applicant notified of

        

    12   the decision? 

        

    13            MR. BUSHMANN:  We would attempt to.

        

    14            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Yeah, I mean, at least send a

         

    15   letter to their last address -- that procedure? 

        

    16            MR. BUSHMANN:  We would use the address that

        

    17   we have on file.

        

    18            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  And look at that. 

        

    19            That's done in each case then? 

        

    20            MR. BUSHMANN:  Yes, that is.

        

    21            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Okay.

        

    22            MR. McCANSE:  The next -- oh, I'm sorry.

        

    23   You're --

         

    24            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  We need to rule on this one.

        

    25            Do we have a motion either to adopt

        

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     1   Resolution 03-055 affirming the hearing officer's award

        

     2   or --

        

     3            COMMISSIONER GANT:  I so move.

         

     4            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  There's a motion. 

        

     5            Second? 

        

     6            COMMISSIONER HINRICHS:  Second.

        

     7            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  Looks like this is pretty cut

        

     8   and dried. 

        

     9            Let's call roll. 

        

    10            MS. FRANKS:  Chairman Smith? 

        

    11            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  In favor. 

        

    12            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Bartch? 

        

    13            COMMISSIONER BARTCH:  Favor. 

        

    14            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Hinrichs? 

        

    15            COMMISSIONER HINRICHS:  Favor. 

        

    16            MS. FRANKS:  Commissioner Gant? 

        

    17            COMMISSIONER GANT:  In favor. 

        

    18            MS. FRANKS:  By your vote you've adopted

        

    19   Resolution No. 03-055. 

        

    20            MR. McCANSE:  And the next case,

        

    21   William E. Fry, there's the same jurisdictional

        

    22   problem, which unfortunately came up at the end of the

        

    23   somewhat lengthy hearing.

        

    24            Fry was actually terminated, and the

        

    25   Commission charged him with commission of the crime,

        

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     1   because he had received $640 to pay a jackpot and they

        

     2   couldn't account for it.  But his license had

        

     3   expired, I think, a few days before the action to

        

     4   revoke his license had started.

        

     5            So, again, it's similar to the Dillie case in

        

     6   that we had no jurisdiction.  The problem in this case

        

     7   is that Mr. Fry has vigorously defended himself

        

     8   in this matter. 

        

     9            And I spent quite a bit of time, and the

        

    10   hearing was kind of lengthy, too.

        

    11            CHAIRMAN SMITH:  I assume that was before you

        

    12   discovered the jurisdictional problem? 

        

    13            MR. McCANSE:  Yeah -- well,

        

    14   even afterwards, because I thought it -- he had his

        

    15   attorney call me the other day.  He said, I don't want

        

    16   to influence any decision you might make.  I just

        

    17   wondered where it stood.  So he's still

        

    18   actively trying to clear his name.

        

    19            There was a videotape of the cashier's booth

        

    20   that was taken from two angles.  One of them taken from

         

    21   above very clearly shows that he received $640. 

        

    22            But what happened was that where there's a

        

    23   jackpot machine -- where the machine itself doesn't pay

        

    24   the coins, they have a person on the floor who the

        

    25   machine will print out a slip and there'll be a request

        

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     1   to pay it. 

        

     2            And he will take -- he carries a few thousand

        

     3   dollars in his wallet.  He pays the lucky person the

        

     4   amount of the jackpot, collects the paperwork, turns it

        

     5   in to the cashier to reload his wallet at the end of

        

     6   his shift -- or at least to make it balance.

        

     7            The only $640 that they could connect to Fry

        

     8   had a receipt that was a month old and not signed by

        

     9   him.  And it was a machine printout slip

        

    10   with somebody else's signature on it.

        

    11            Obviously it did not apply to the jackpot in

        

    12   question.  This happened in October and that slip was

        

    13   in September, I think.

        

    14            The video, though, showed that when Fry went

        

    15   up to the cashier's cage, he handed the paperwork to

        

    16   the cashier.  She looked at it and pushed it back to

        

    17   him.  And he glanced at it and pushed it back to her,